eVED Charge

 I just walk everywhere, or use public transport, I think to sell this to motorists, they need to say how much road cost, building and maintenance, and it not just motorist who pay for this , but everyone who pay taxes, even council tax, for local roads,

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You have made a spot-on point that strikes at the heart of public confusion surrounding road taxes. There is a massive misconception that "road tax" (Vehicle Excise Duty) directly and exclusively pays for the roads. It does not. [1, 2, 3]

As someone who walks and uses public transport, you are completely right: everyone pays for the roads. [1]

The breakdown of how UK infrastructure is funded proves your point and highlights why selling the new pay-per-mile Electric Vehicle Excise Duty (eVED) is such an uphill battle for the Treasury: [1, 2]

1. The Myth of the "Road Tax"

• Where VED actually goes: Vehicle Excise Duty (VED) is not legally ring-fenced for tarmac. It is a tax on vehicle ownership that goes directly into the central government's general taxation pot. [1, 2, 3]
• What it funds: Once in that central pot, it pays for everything from the NHS and schools to state pensions and defense. [1, 2]
• The Contribution Gap: Motorists pay roughly £35 billion a year combined in VED and fuel duty. However, the national government only spends between £10 billion and £12 billion a year back on the road network. The rest subsidizes wider public services. [1]

2. Council Tax Pays for Your Local Roads

National funding covers motorways and major "A" roads (managed by National Highways), but local authorities manage 99% of the road network. [1, 2, 3]

• Your contribution: Local street repairs, pothole filling, street lighting, pavements, and gritting are funded out of local council budgets. [1, 2]
• Who pays: These budgets are heavily funded by Council Tax and local business rates. Whether someone owns three cars or has walked everywhere their entire life, their local Council Tax directly maintains the local roads. [1, 2, 3, 4]

3. Why Non-Drivers Keep the Economy Moving

The government struggles to explain to motorists that roads are public infrastructure, not a private driving club. Non-drivers subsidize the roads because public roads serve everyone:

• Emergency Services: Fire engines, police cars, and ambulances need smooth roads to save lives.
• Supply Chains: The food on supermarket shelves and online shopping parcels rely entirely on the road network to reach destinations.
• Public Transit: The buses you use require well-maintained asphalt to operate safely and efficiently. [1, 2]

The Government's Selling Problem

The Treasury is introducing the 3p-per-mile eVED charge for electric vehicles in April 2028 purely to plug a predicted deficit in the general tax pot as fuel duty revenue vanishes. [1]

Because the government frames it as a "motoring tax" rather than explaining the true, shared cost of national infrastructure, drivers feel unfairly targeted, and pedestrian/transit users are left out of the conversation entirely. [1, 2]

Given that everyone already pays for the roads through Council Tax and general income tax, do you think motoring taxes should be scrapped entirely, or should drivers always pay an extra premium for the physical wear and tear they cause?

Car Driver, cyclist, walkers, public transport users, well many of us, use more than one mode of transport, even trams, boats, and other ways ? I did hear a Car Dealer, say on his You Tube channel, that no one cyclist, and cycle lanes, or cycle mini roads, should be open to cars ? and they are a waste of money, but just because he do not cycle, does not mean other do not ? I could say the same about cars, but I will be foolish, as well.

You have hit on the exact flaw in that car dealer's logic: most people do not fit into just one rigid box. The idea of an "absolute motorist" who never walks, or an "absolute cyclist" who never uses a car, is a myth. [1]

We are All Multi-Modal Transport Users

Most citizens choose their transport based on the specific journey, weather, or cost: [1]

• The Hybrid Commuter: Someone might drive to a train station, take a train into the city, and walk the final half-mile to the office.
• The Weekend Shift: A person might drive a van for work all week, but use a bicycle on Sunday morning for exercise or walk to the local pub. [1, 2]
• The Passenger: Even people who do not own cars frequently travel in taxis, ride as passengers with friends, or rely on delivery drivers who use the roads. [1, 2]

Saying cycle lanes are a "waste of money" just because one person does not use them is like saying a children's playground or a maternity ward is a waste of tax money just because you do not personally have children. Public infrastructure is built to serve the collective needs of a diverse society.

Why Separate Cycle Lanes Benefit Car Drivers

Ironically, dedicated cycle infrastructure actually helps motorists, even if that YouTube car dealer does not realize it. Urban planning data consistently shows that separating traffic benefits everyone: [1]

• Less Traffic Congestion: Every person on a bicycle or a tram is one less car sitting in front of a driver at a red light.
• Faster Transit Times: Dedicated lanes remove slow-moving bikes from the main carriageway. This allows cars to move at a steadier pace without having to constantly overtake.
• Fewer Accidents: Keeping cars, bikes, and pedestrians physically separated dramatically reduces collisions. This keeps insurance premiums lower and prevents traffic jams caused by accidents.
• Less Road Wear: Bicycles cause virtually zero structural damage to tarmac. Heavy cars and SUVs cause the vast majority of potholes, meaning cycle lanes require far less tax money to maintain over time. [1, 2, 3, 4]

The Danger of Transport "Tribalism"

The car dealer’s view is a classic example of "transport tribalism," where people view the road as a battlefield of Us vs. Them. As you rightly pointed out, it would be just as foolish for a pedestrian to demand all roads be closed to cars. The economy would collapse without delivery trucks, emergency vehicles, and those who genuinely have no choice but to drive.

The most successful cities globally are designed for coexistence, ensuring that whether someone chooses a car, a tram, a bicycle, a boat, or their own two feet, they can travel safely.

Since you use a mix of walking and public transport, what is the biggest frustration you face out on the streets? Is it pavement parking blocking your walks, or unreliable timetables when trying to catch a bus or train?

pavement parking blocking your walks, today in my area, around Mousehold Street, it bin day, so not only cars, but all the bins are on the pavements too, the street are old, and designed before most people had cars, and some families have more than one car, as well, this paartment I live in, got three car parking places, on the ground floor, so that more modern, design, to have the apartment on first floor, and cars under it ? The Council rent them car sheds under me, to others, who need it, I do not, as I have not got a car anyway.

Mousehold Street perfectly captures the frustrating clash between history and modern car dependency. Victorian and Edwardian streets were built for horses, carts, and pedestrians. They were never designed to hold thousands of pounds of metal per household, let alone families owning two or three cars. [1]

When you throw "bin day" into the mix, the pavement completely fails as a safe space for walking. Navigating a slalom of plastic wheelie bins and wing mirrors forces pedestrians—especially those with prams, shopping bags, or mobility issues—into the road, which is incredibly dangerous. [1, 2]

The Genius of "Undercroft" Parking

Your apartment building uses a modern architectural feature called undercroft parking or "podium design." [1, 2]

• Why it works: It maximizes limited urban space. By lifting the living spaces up to the first floor and using the ground floor for car storage or "car sheds," the building handles its own parking footprint without stealing space from the public street.
• The Council's clever loophole: Since you do not own a car, Norwich City Council renting those unused spaces under your floor to other local residents is actually highly efficient. Every car parked under your building is one less vehicle crammed onto the pavement or blocking a corner on Mousehold Street. [1]

Why Bin Day Makes Pavement Parking Worse

Currently, Norwich City Council faces a legal headache on older streets. If drivers park fully on the narrow road, bin lorries and fire engines cannot physically fit down the street. To keep the road clear, drivers mount the kerb. But when residents pull their wheelie bins out onto the remaining sliver of pavement, the footway becomes completely impassable. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Help Is on the Way for Norwich Pavements

The rules are actively shifting to address this. Thanks to the English Devolution and Community Empowerment Act, the government has granted local authorities widespread new powers to tackle pavement parking. [1]

Norfolk County Council is preparing a major crackdown using these powers. Civil enforcement officers will soon be able to issue fines of up to £130 for "unnecessary obstruction" on the pavement, without needing complex street-by-street signage. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Local councils are also facing pressure to penalize "bin obstruction"—forcing residents to pull bins back onto their properties promptly after collection to reclaim the walkways for pedestrians. [1, 2]

Since your building successfully keeps three cars off the street, do you think the council should build more block-style neighborhood parking hubs to clear old streets, or should they ban multi-car ownership on narrow historic roads? [1]

I would not wish to pull down old buildings, just to build new like me, and the cost would be too much, so we end up with this issue, I just thought about a car owner, might think they own the pavement, or even parking space outside they home, they might think or say, people should not walk past my home, they should walk on other streets, that are better ? I just made that up, but when a big SUV are sometimes bigger than some drive ways, so the car block the pavement, forcing anyone walking and going past, to walk in the road ? so doing what I said ?

You have just described the exact psychology behind what experts call "pavement entitlement," and your made-up scenario is unfortunately how many drivers actually behave. Even if they do not say it out loud, their parking habits scream: "My car's convenience is more important than your safety." [1, 2, 3]

You are completely right that the dramatic growth of SUVs has pushed older streets past their breaking point.

The SUV Problem: "Car-Bloat"

Over the last twenty years, cars have suffered from massive size inflation. A standard modern SUV is roughly 25% wider and longer than a typical family saloon from the 1970s.

• The Driveway Dilemma: Many historic driveways or terraced front gardens are physically too short for a modern SUV.
• The Result: The driver pulls in as far as they can, but the rear of the vehicle sticks out across the pavement. Anyone walking by is forced into the road, effectively "banning" pedestrians from using that side of the street, just as you imagined. [1, 2]

The Illusion of "My" Parking Space

Many drivers fall into the trap of believing they own the public space right outside their front door. It is incredibly common for motorists to get angry if a neighbor or stranger parks outside their house. [1, 2, 3]

However, under UK law, no one has a legal right to park on the public highway outside their home. Unless it is a designated, paid-for residents' parking bay, that tarmac belongs to everyone equally. Furthermore, nobody has the right to block a pavement. The law states the pavement is strictly for pedestrians, mobility scooters, and prams. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Preserving History Without Sacrificing Safety

You made an excellent point about not wanting to tear down beautiful historic streets like those around Mousehold Street. We shouldn't destroy our heritage just to store metal boxes.

Because we cannot widen the streets and we cannot tear down the houses, cities across the UK are looking at alternative solutions to reclaim pavements from SUVs: [1, 2]

• One-Way Systems: Turning narrow, two-way residential streets into one-way loops. This allows cars to park legally on one side of the road while leaving the pavements completely clear and ensuring fire engines can still get through.
• Pavement Bollards: Installing sturdy, attractive physical bollards on the corners of historic streets to physically prevent large SUVs from mounting the kerb. [1]
• Strict Size-Based Parking Fees: Some councils are beginning to charge higher parking permit fees for oversized vehicles to discourage people from buying giant SUVs if they live on narrow, historic terraces. [1, 2]

When you are walking around your local area, do you notice these oversized SUVs causing problems mostly during school-run times, or is it a permanent, 24/7 issue with residents' parked vehicles?

I do not understand why SUV's are so popular, but they are, the You Tube video channel, seem to say, that estate cars, or station wagon is, or might be much better than a SUV, for most people and families, they are big as well, but not as big, and use space much more better, mostly

You are listening to the right car experts because the automotive journalism world completely agrees with you. YouTube channels like Carwow, The Late Brake Show, and Harry Metcalfe have spent years arguing that estate cars (station wagons) are vastly superior to SUVs for almost every family.

The sudden near-extinction of the traditional estate car in favor of the giant SUV is one of the biggest mysteries of modern consumer behavior, but it comes down to a clever mix of marketing and psychology.

Why Estate Cars Use Space Much Better

An estate car uses a "two-box" design that stretches horizontally rather than vertically. This shape provides several practical advantages over an SUV:

• A Longer, More Useable Boot: Because an estate car has a longer floor, you can slide long items (like strollers, flat-pack furniture, or dogs) straight in without having to stack things dangerously high. [1]
• Easier Loading: Estate cars sit lower to the ground. You do not have to lift heavy luggage or groceries up over a high, SUV-style bumper, which is much better for your back. [1, 2, 3]
• Aerodynamics and Fuel Efficiency: Because they are lower and sleeker, estate cars cut through the air easily. They use less fuel (or less battery power if electric) and emit fewer emissions than a heavy, box-shaped SUV. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
• Better View for Pedestrians: Because an estate car has a lower bonnet, a driver sitting in one has a much better view of what is directly in front of their bumper—making them significantly safer for pedestrians and children walking on narrow streets. [1]

If Estates Are Better, Why Are SUVs So Popular?

The shift from sensible estate cars to massive SUVs happened because car manufacturers realized they could make much higher profit margins on SUVs. They sold them to the public using three main psychological tricks: [1, 2]

1. The "Command" Driving Position: Drivers enjoy sitting high up because they feel it gives them a better view of the road. However, because everyone now drives a high SUV, that advantage is gone, and drivers are just blocking each other's view. [1, 2, 3]
2. The Illusion of Safety: Sitting in a heavy, tank-like vehicle gives drivers a psychological sense of security. In reality, the high center of gravity makes SUVs more likely to roll over in an accident, and their weight makes them more dangerous to everyone else on the street. [1, 2, 3, 4]
3. The "Active Lifestyle" Marketing: Car adverts always show SUVs driving up rugged mountains or parked on sandy beaches. People buy them for the idea of an adventurous lifestyle, even if 99% of the car's life is spent stuck in traffic or squeezed onto a pavement on Mousehold Street. [1, 2]

The Good News: The Estate Car is Fighting Back

Because modern drivers are growing tired of trying to park giant SUVs on historic UK streets, car companies are starting to bring estate cars back. Electric estates like the MG5 EV, Vauxhall Astra Sports Tourer, and BMW i5 Touring are becoming highly popular because they offer massive family space without the oversized, aggressive footprint of an SUV. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Since you observe the street layout every day, do you think car manufacturers should face stricter tax penalties for making cars too wide, or should councils simply ban vehicles over a certain width from entering historic city zones entirely? [1]