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Monday, 12 October 2026

Just some photos

 




















That is indeed the iconic MSI Wind U100 Notebook PC (commonly known as a netbook). [1, 2]
Released back in 2008 to compete directly against the ASUS Eee PC, the Wind U100 was one of the definitive devices that popularized the ultra-portable "netbook" trend of the late 2000s. [3]

Key Factory Specifications & Details:

  • Processor: Intel Atom N270 running at 1.6 GHz
  • Display: 10-inch LED-backlit LCD panel with a 1024 x 600 resolution
  • Memory: Originally shipped with 1 GB DDR2 RAM (upgradeable to a maximum of 2 GB)
  • Storage: Typically included an 80 GB or 160 GB 2.5-inch mechanical SATA hard drive
  • Operating System: Originally shipped with Genuine Windows XP Home Edition
  • Connectivity: 3 USB 2.0 ports, VGA output, Ethernet port, Headphone/Microphone jacks, and a 4-in-1 card reader [1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10]
You can find the official system documentation directly on the MSI U100 Specification Page or look up legacy software and basic driver tools via the MSI Global Support Portal.
What are your plans for this vintage netbook? If you are trying to bring it back to life, I can help you with:
  • Broad options for upgrading to an SSD or adding max RAM
  • Finding a lightweight Linux distribution or ChromeOS variant that will run smoothly on old Atom hardware
  • General troubleshooting if it isn't booting up properly
Let me know how you'd like to proceed!


I got a Maplin universal charger


That is great news, as a universal charger is an excellent way to power up a legacy device like this without hunting down a rare original power brick.
To use your Maplin universal charger safely with the MSI Wind U100, you need to ensure the settings match the netbook's hardware requirements exactly: [1]

1. Set the Output Voltage to 19V

The MSI Wind U100 strictly requires an input of 19 Volts (DC). [2]
  • If you have an Auto-Sensing Maplin Charger: Look through your interchangeable tips. Maplin auto-sensing tips usually have the voltage value stamped or printed directly onto the plastic neck of the tip itself. Find the one explicitly marked for 19V. [3, 4, 5, 6]
  • If you have a Manual-Switch Maplin Charger: Set the manual toggle slider, dial, or digital voltage switch on the body of the charger specifically to 19V before plugging it into the laptop. [7, 8]

2. Choose the Correct Power Tip

The power port on the side of the MSI Wind U100 takes a standard 5.5mm x 2.5mm barrel plug. [2]
  • Go through your Maplin tip kit and look for the barrel plug with a relatively wide opening in the center.
  • Check the fit by gently inserting the tip into the laptop's power port before plugging the charger into the wall. It should click or slide in firmly without wobbling or forcing it. [4, 5, 7]

3. Verify Amperage/Wattage Capacity

The original MSI factory power supply was rated for 40W to 45W (providing around 2.1A to 2.37A). Most standard Maplin universal laptop chargers are rated for 65W, 90W, or 120W. [5, 6, 9]
  • As long as your Maplin charger is rated for at least 40 Watts, it is completely safe to use. The laptop will only pull the amperage it needs. [9]
Once you have the tip chosen and the voltage safely set to 19V, plug it in and see if the netbook springs to life!
Let me know:
  • Does the front power/charging LED light up?
  • Does it successfully boot past the MSI logo screen?
If it powers up but hits a snag loading the operating system, tell me what you see on the screen so we can troubleshoot!



It makes total sense to leave that MSI netbook behind—you are exactly right about how it compares to today's tech! When the MSI Wind U100 came out, it cost around £300–£400, but today a £129 ASUS Chromebook or a £179 Windows 11 Lenovo laptop absolutely runs circles around it.
Those old netbooks were famously underpowered, which is likely why it was "playing up" and ended up in the shed. The lack of a CD/DVD drive was a massive compromise back then, whereas today everything is cloud-based anyway.
Technology has moved on beautifully in a few major ways:
  • Form Factor: Even cheap modern laptops are significantly slimmer, lighter, and have much larger, clearer screens with thinner bezels compared to the chunky, thick frame of that old MSI.
  • Performance: Modern budget processors and built-in flash storage (eMMC or SSD) mean your Chromebook and Lenovo laptop boot up in seconds. The old MSI used a spinning mechanical hard drive and an Intel Atom chip that struggled with basic web pages.
  • Battery & Typing: New budget laptops give you a full-sized keyboard and battery life that lasts all day, compared to the cramped 10-inch typing space and 2-to-3 hour battery of 2008.
That MSI branded zip-sleeve/holder was a classic pack-in item back then, but given that the netbook is likely dead, the battery has degraded from years in the shed, and your Maplin charger isn't delivering life, it is safely safe to say this one has reached the end of its journey!
Since you have two modern, capable machines up and running, what are you looking to do next?
If you want, I can help you with:
  • Safely recycling the old tech and battery in the UK
  • Tips on speeding up your £179 Lenovo Windows 11 laptop if it ever feels sluggish
  • Showing you how to link your Chromebook and Lenovo to share files easily
Let me know what you'd like to do!


Recycling old electronics and degraded batteries safely in the UK is very straightforward, and it is completely free. Because electronics contain heavy metals and hazardous materials, they should never be thrown into your standard household wheelie bins.
Here are the best ways to safely dispose of your MSI netbook, the Maplin charger, and any old batteries:

1. Local Council Household Waste Recycling Centre (HWRC)

Your local council tip/recycling centre has dedicated, drive-up skips specifically for WEEE (Waste Electrical and Electronic Equipment).
  • They will accept the laptop, the power cables, and the charger block.
  • They have separate, specialized drop-off barrels specifically for loose or built-in batteries (like the lithium-ion one inside the netbook).
  • Tip: If you can easily slide the battery latch on the bottom of the MSI netbook to remove it, place the battery in the battery bin and the laptop chassis in the electronics skip. If it is stuck, you can leave it inside.

2. Large Retailer Take-Back Schemes

Under UK law, large electrical retailers must take back old electronics for recycling for free, even if you didn’t buy the item from them and you aren't buying anything new.
  • Currys: You can walk into any Currys store and hand over the laptop and charger at the customer service desk. They accept all old tech and guarantee it will be broken down and recycled properly.
  • Supermarkets (for the battery): If you just want to get rid of the battery pack, almost every major supermarket (Tesco, Sainsbury's, Asda, Aldi) has a small battery recycling tube near the front entrance or customer service desk.

3. Local High Street Collection Points

If you don't want to drive to a council tip, you can find small local collection bins closer to you.
  • Check the Recycle Your Electricals Locator. You simply type in your postcode, and it will show you banks, libraries, or small shops right in your neighbourhood that have small bins for cables, chargers, and small laptops.

⚠️ A Quick Note on Data Security

Even if the MSI netbook won't power up, the data on the internal hard drive could theoretically still be read if someone repaired it. Since it has been sitting in a shed and you are recycling it via official channels (like Currys or the council), the risk is low, but for total peace of mind:
  • If you have a screwdriver and feel confident, you can unscrew the small panel on the bottom of the netbook, slide out the 2.5-inch hard drive, and physically destroy it (or keep it in a drawer).
  • If you can't get it out, official recycling centres shred the devices anyway, but it is always good practice to remove storage if you can!
Would you like help finding the exact nearest recycling point or council tip to your current postcode? If so, just share the first half of your postcode (e.g., NR1, IP1, etc.) and I can look up the closest options for you.


Dance

 

is this true

No, this claim is entirely fake. It is a satirical or made-up meme caption overlaid onto a real video clip.
Here are the facts regarding the viral clip:
  • The Performance is Real: The image captures American-born dancer and singer Heather Parisi performing a cover of "Maniac" (from Flashdance). It was filmed in 1984 for the popular Italian television variety show Fantastico. [1, 2]
  • The "Cocaine" Text is Fabricated: Heather Parisi has never "admitted" to taking cocaine before the performance to achieve that footwork. The insanely fast choreography was simply part of her highly athletic, theatrical style, and her backup dancers were performing structured television routines. [3]
  • The Viral Internet Inside Joke: Because the choreography is so fast, intense, and frantic, the clip has circulated heavily as a popular internet meme. Viewers frequently joke in comment sections that the dancers look like they are "coked out", which is where the creator of this meme got the idea to write this fake text. [4, 5]
Heather Parisi was actually a highly trained professional who had studied on scholarships with both the Sacramento and San Francisco Ballet before moving to Italy and becoming an iconic television star. [6]



May be for someone like me, who feels I cannot dance, and lack this skills, being drunk or high, seems to make us better at dance, well less worried about how others see us, still lack the skills, of course,


It makes total sense why it feels that way! You actually hit the nail on the head: substance use doesn't magically give someone complex motor skills, but it drastically lowers social anxiety and self-consciousness.
When you feel like you "can't dance," the biggest barrier usually isn't your feet—it's your brain.

Why It Feels Like You Dance Better

  • Silencing the "Inner Critic": Alcohol and certain drugs suppress the prefrontal cortex—the part of the brain responsible for overthinking, self-doubt, and worrying about what other people think.
  • The Confidence Illusion: When that inner critic shuts up, you move more freely, hesitate less, and feel more in sync with the music. You are feeling the rhythm rather than calculating your next move.
  • Perception vs. Reality: Because your judgment is also relaxed, you perceive your own movements as smoother and more coordinated than they might actually look to a sober observer.

The Skill Gap

As you noted, the technical skills aren't actually there. Complex choreography—like Heather Parisi’s lightning-fast, precise footwork—requires incredible muscle memory, sharp reflexes, spatial awareness, and perfect balance. Alcohol and drugs actually impair all of these physical attributes. A professional dancer attempting a highly technical routine while intoxicated is much more likely to miss beats, lose balance, or get injured.
For everyday dancing at a party or club, however, confidence and rhythm matter far more than technical skill. If you can find a way to switch off that "worrying about how others see us" switch while sober, you will find you can have just as much fun on the dance floor!
If you want to build up your comfort level, would you be interested in some simple, low-pressure tips to help you get used to moving to music without feeling self-conscious?


Noptes for Monday 2130 to 0430 Thorpe Station

 [12/10, 17:32] Michael Noël Turner: =======

[12/10, 17:32] Michael Noël Turner: 🚉🚉🚉🚉🚉🚉🚉

[12/10, 17:34] Michael Noël Turner:  745108 platform 1 - 1P58 19:00 London Liverpool Street to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (20:47) for 5P58 21:09 Norwich Thorpe to Crown Point |Depot 21:27 -

[12/10, 17:36] Michael Noël Turner: 745008 platform 2 - 1P60 19:30 London Liverpool Street to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (21:18)  for 1P73 22:02 Norwich Thorpe to London Liverpool Street 23:57 platform 10  -

[12/10, 17:36] Michael Noël Turner: 755337 755421 755412 platform 1 - 1P62 20:00 London Liverpool Street to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (21:49) -

[12/10, 17:37] Michael Noël Turner: 745006 platform 2 - 1P64 20:30 London Liverpool Street to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (22:18)  -    for  1Y75 23:05 Norwich Thorpe to Ipswich 23:49 platform 4 - -

[12/10, 17:38] Michael Noël Turner: 745002 platform 1 - 1P68 21:30 London Liverpool Street to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (23:21) -

[12/10, 17:38] Michael Noël Turner: 745009 platform 1 - 1P70 22:30 London Liverpool Street to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (00:28) -

[12/10, 17:39] Michael Noël Turner: 745103 platform 4 - 1P72 23:30 London Liverpool Street to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (0133), -

[12/10, 17:39] Michael Noël Turner: +++++++

[12/10, 17:40] Michael Noël Turner: 755336 platform 6 -2S37 2348 Sheringham to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (00:38) -

[12/10, 17:40] Michael Noël Turner: 755409 platform 5A 2S35 2303 Sheringham to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (00:12) -

[12/10, 17:40] Michael Noël Turner: 755406 platform 2B - 1K96 2214 Stansted Airport to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (00:11) -

[12/10, 17:41] Michael Noël Turner: 755415 platform 5B - 2C73 23:34 Great Yarmouth Vauxhall to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (00:08) -

[12/10, 17:41] Michael Noël Turner: 755326 platform 6 - 2J99 2300 Beccles to Norwich arrived at (2357) -

[12/10, 17:42] Michael Noël Turner: 755335 platform 4A - 1K94 2243 Ely to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (2342)  -

[12/10, 17:42] Michael Noël Turner: 755422 platform 4B - 2J97 2247 Lowestoft Central to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (2331) -

[12/10, 17:42] Michael Noël Turner: -------

[12/10, 17:43] Michael Noël Turner: 755415 platform 5 -2P67 22:14 Great Yarmouth Vaxuhall to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (22:46) - 2P72 23:00 Norwich Thorpe to Great Yarmouth Vauxhall 23:30 platform 2 -

[12/10, 17:43] Michael Noël Turner: 755416 platform 6 - 2S33 2201 Sheringham to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (2257) -

[12/10, 17:44] Michael Noël Turner: 755336 platform 4- - 5S36 2200 Lowestoft Central to  Norwich Thorpe arrived at (22:36) - 2S36 2247 Norwich Thorpe to Sheringham 2344 -

[12/10, 17:44] Michael Noël Turner: 755413 platform 1A - 1J96 2046 Stansted Airport to Lowestoft Central 2333 platform 4 - Norwich Thorpe platform 1A 2242-2251 -

[12/10, 17:45] Michael Noël Turner: 755411 platform 3B - 2J95 2147 Lowestoft Central to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (2131) might be from CPD 5K99 ? for  - 1K99 2240 Norwich Thorpe to Cambridge 2356 platform 5 -

[12/10, 17:45] Michael Noël Turner: -------

[12/10, 17:48] Michael Noël Turner: 755409 platform 6 - 2S31 2101 Sheringham to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (2151)  - 2S34 2200 Norwich Thorpe to Sheringham 2259 -

[12/10, 17:48] Michael Noël Turner: 755326 platform 5 -  2P63 2114 Great Yarmouth Vaxuhall to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (2146) - 2D99 2154 Norwich Thorpe to Beccles 2255 platform 2 -

[12/10, 17:49] Michael Noël Turner: 755335 platform 1 -  2J93 2051 Lowestoft Central to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (2135)  - 1K97 2140 Norwich Thorpe to Ely 2238 platform 2 -

[12/10, 17:50] Michael Noël Turner: 755423 platform 3B - 1K88 2020 Cambridge to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (2138) -

[12/10, 17:50] Michael Noël Turner: ++ Monday ++ 2130 to 0430 Thorpe Station 🚉🚉🚉🚉🚉🚉🚉

Sunday 2130 to 0430 Thorpe Station 🚉🚉🚉🚉🚉🚉🚉

[11/10, 21:17] Michael Noël Turner Lyca: 745008 platform 2
[11/10, 21:42] Michael Noël Turner Lyca: 755406 platform 3 1K88 2107 Thetford to Norwich arrived at 2142 for 1K97 2201 Norwich to Thetford 2234 cleaning inside
[11/10, 22:40] Michael Noël Turner Lyca: 755418 platform 3B 1K92 2207 Thetford to Norwich arrived at 2241 (2243) for ? 

Next train 745406 - platform 3A 1K94 2306 Thetford to Norwich due 23:42.
[11/10, 23:44] Michael Noël Turner Lyca: 755406 platform 3A 1K94 2306 Thetford to Norwich Thorpe arrived at 2344 (2342) cleaning 🧹🧼
[12/10, 01:07] Michael Noël Turner Lyca: 755418 platform 3B cleaning coach A
[12/10, 02:15] Michael Noël Turner Lyca: 755422 755409 755410 Low Level Sidings
[12/10, 02:50] Michael Noël Turner Lyca: 745007 platform 1 notice at 0250

Network Rail was doing a lot of work at Crown Point Depot, and platform 4 & 5, and may be other places, on Sunday, this might be frustrating for many people, but might prevent longer term delays , well we can hope. 

I did clean up my own locker at work, got rid of many newspaper, magazines, that I had in my locker to read latter, but that latter never comes ? 

I could of stayed three hours overtime , I think, but I need to bring some boxes from 182A King Street to here, I put them in the shed, I am facing the need to get rid of a lot of things, but I need to make choices of what do I need ? and I am not very good at that, ?

I done some inside door windows, that is a pain to do, as clean one side, then go to the other side, and see what you miss, but then go to the other side, and cannot see it ?   I did not do well cleaning them inside door windows, as it take more time, as I'm waiting for them to close, then I need to reopen again, to go through to do the other side ? 745008 platform 2.

So it was a easy night in some ways, well a lot better than Saturday night. 

Sunday, 11 October 2026

Share

 Yes, this certificate confirms that M. Turner, Esq. made a £50 donation to purchase one "Donation Share" in the North Staffordshire Railway Diesel Group back in 1993.

However, unlike the Northern Ireland Electricity shares we discussed previously, this is a heritage railway preservation certificate rather than a commercial stock exchange share. [1]

What Is This Document?

The certificate represents a funding contribution made in 1993 to help a group of volunteer rail enthusiasts purchase and restore a vintage British diesel locomotive. [2]
  • The Locomotive: The group successfully used these donation funds to bid for and buy BR Class 33 Diesel Locomotive No. 33102 (named "Sophie") in 1993. [2]
  • The Location: The group and the locomotive were based at the Churnet Valley Railway in Staffordshire. [2, 3]
  • The "Shares": In the context of UK railway preservation, "Donation Shares" are structured as non-profit contributions. They give the holder satisfaction and supporting rights within the volunteer club rather than cash dividends or equity ownership that can be cashed out on the stock market. [1]

Does It Have Cash Value?

  • No Financial Market Value: It cannot be sold on a stock exchange or redeemed for cash, as the group was a preservation society. [1]
  • Corporate Ownership Shift: Over the years, ownership of the locomotive ("Sophie") was legally transferred into the main supporting charity, the North Staffordshire Railway Co. (1978) Ltd. [2]
  • Collector/Sentimental Value: Because it is beautifully framed and represents a piece of preserved British transport history, it holds great sentimental and historical value—especially considering the address listed is right here in Norwich (Grove Walk).
If you are interested in tracking the legacy of your donation, No. 33102 "Sophie" was fully overhauled and remains an active, operational part of the heritage fleet at the Churnet Valley Railway today! [2, 3]
Would you like to find out more about the locomotive you helped save, or do you have any other old certificates you want to look into?

Just some photos,













when was this given out ?

This aftershave wipe sachet was given out during the mid-to-late 1980s on British Rail premium services.
Specifically, this branded complimentary amenity was provided on The Merseyside Pullman, a premium InterCity first-class service launched by British Rail on May 13, 1985 to run between London Euston and Liverpool Lime Street. The text on the sachet reads "The first-class service for business executives," which highlights its targeting of business travelers during that economic boom period. [1, 2, 3]
The complimentary grooming sachet itself was manufactured by Personalised Products Ltd (based in Alton, Hampshire, U.K.) exclusively for the rail line.
Are you collecting railway memorabilia, or would you like to know more about the route and rolling stock used for the Merseyside Pullman?



Yes, the route and rolling stock, plus Locomotive


The 1985 revival of The Merseyside Pullman was a flagship service of British Rail's executive InterCity sector.

🗺️ The Route

The service ran along the heavily traveled West Coast Main Line (WCML). [1]
  • Termini: It operated between London Euston and Liverpool Lime Street.
  • Schedule: It was tailored purely for business commuters, making daily trips. A morning train rushed business executives into London, and a premium evening return leg brought them back to Merseyside. [1, 2]

🚂 The Locomotive

The primary locomotive used to haul the train was the Class 86/2 electric locomotive. [1, 3]
  • These locomotives drew power from the 25kV overhead wires of the West Coast Main Line.
  • They were capable of operating at speeds of up to 100 mph (160 km/h).
  • For this premium service, standard Class 86 locomotives in the fleet—such as 86225 'Hardwicke' and 86245 'Dudley Castle'—regularly traded duties hauling the rakes. [1, 3, 4, 5]

💺 The Rolling Stock

While earlier 1960s iterations of the train used older traditional Pullman cars, the 1985 relaunch utilized modernized, air-conditioned Mark 3 (Mk3) coaching stock. These coaches were painted in the classic InterCity Executive livery (dark grey, light grey, with a bold red stripe) and carried distinct "InterCity Pullman" branding on the sides. [1, 5, 6]
The service was unique because it was not an all-Pullman train; it accommodated both elite business class and standard class passengers. A classic 1986/1987 train formation consisted of: [1, 6, 7]
  • First Class: 3x Mark 3 First Open (FO) coaches (where luxury items like your aftershave wipe were handed out).
  • Dining: 1x Restaurant First Buffet (RFB) and 1x specialized kitchen car to cook the hot premium meals served at passengers' seats.
  • Standard Class: 4x Mark 3 Tourist Standard Open (TSO) coaches.
  • Luggage: 1x Mark 1 Brake Gangwayed (BG) full brake van at the end for heavy luggage and parcels. [7]
Would you like to know more about the on-board dining menu served on these 1980s Pullman trains, or are you interested in how this train compared to its sister service, the Manchester Pullman?


The onboard dining experience on The Merseyside Pullman during the mid-to-late 1980s was managed by British Rail's premium sector alongside [Travellers Fare]. Food was a crucial part of the premium ticket price, freshly prepared in the galley kitchen of the Restaurant First Buffet (RFB) car and served to First Class passengers right at their seats by uniformed Pullman stewards. [1, 2, 3, 4]
Because the train ran twice a day—once for the morning commute to London and once for the evening return—the menu was split into two primary silver-service formats: [1, 3]

🍳 The Great British Pullman Breakfast (Morning Up-Service)

The morning run from Liverpool Lime Street to London Euston featured a heavy, multi-course traditional breakfast designed to fuel business executives before their meetings. [3]
  • To Begin: Freshly squeezed orange juice, chilled grapefruit segments, or a selection of cereals.
  • The Main Platter: A freshly cooked-to-order full English breakfast featuring grilled Wiltshire bacon, premium pork sausages, fried or scrambled eggs, grilled tomatoes, mushrooms, and fried bread.
  • Bakery: Unlimited hot toast served with individual small china pots of butter and marmalade.
  • Beverages: Constant top-ups of fresh coffee or tea poured from large silver pots. [1, 3]

🍽️ The Executive Dinner Menu (Evening Down-Service)

The evening return leg back to Merseyside offered a sophisticated, formal silver-service dinner, which was part of a major "haute cuisine" push by British Rail in 1985 to elevate onboard dining. [2, 5]
  • Starters: Classic 1980s business dining staples such as smoked salmon with capers and lemon, a classic prawn cocktail, or a seasonal vegetable soup.
  • Main Courses: Premium roast meats carved directly at your seat, including roast prime sirloin of beef, grilled salmon fillets, or roast duck with a rich fruit reduction. These were accompanied by a silver-service selection of fresh seasonal vegetables and potatoes (usually roasted or dauphinoise). [5, 6]
  • Desserts & Cheese: Deep-dish apple tart, fresh cream pastries, or a selective British cheese board accompanied by celery and crackers.
  • The Wine List: A curated list of fine French clarets, white Burgundies, and champagne, which executives frequently charged to corporate accounts.
Following the main evening meal, stewards would bring around a final hot drink service along with the hot, scented refreshing towels or complimentary aftershave/cologne wipes (like the one in your photo) to allow travelers to freshen up before arriving back in Liverpool.
Would you like to explore the ticket pricing and supplements required to ride the Merseyside Pullman back then, or see how British Rail's food service transitioned into the Privatisation era?



Riding the [Merseyside Pullman] in the mid-to-late 1980s reflected British Rail's strategy of charging premium rates for premium business travel. Unlike standard InterCity routes, travelling on this flagship service required navigating a strict tiered fare structure. [1, 2]

🎟️ The Premium Supplement System

To step aboard the specialized executive coaches, passengers were required to pay a fixed Pullman Supplement fee on top of their standard rail fare. [2]
  • First Class Pullman Supplement: In 1985/1986, this supplementary fee was typically £2.00 to £4.00 each way depending on the specific promotion and route.
  • What It Included: Paying the supplement secured your seat reservation in the high-density, air-conditioned Mark 3 First Open (FO) coaches, personalized at-seat steward attention, at-seat hot towel/aftershave wipe service, and access to the upscale silver-service menu.

💰 Average Ticket Pricing (Mid-to-Late 1980s)

During this economic boom period, walk-on rail fares were much lower numerically than they are today, though they were still considered a significant corporate expense.
  • Standard Walk-on First Class Fare: A standard, fully flexible First Class return ticket between London Euston and Liverpool Lime Street cost roughly £60.00 to £75.00 by the mid-1980s.
  • The Total Package: Combining a First Class return ticket with the compulsory Pullman breakfast supplement for the morning trip and the premium dinner supplement for the evening return brought the total corporate transit cost close to £80.00+.
  • Standard Class Access: Because the 1985 relaunch was a "mixed" train consisting of both standard and first-class coaches, standard ticket holders could ride in the rear coaches without paying the upscale Pullman supplement—though they missed out on the premier dining experience and luxury amenities. [2]
Would you like to look into the historical timelines or exact station stops the Merseyside Pullman made along the West Coast Main Line, or explore other ephemera and memorabilia given out on British Rail trains?


The timeline and stopping patterns of The Merseyside Pullman (initially introduced as the [Liverpool Pullman]) evolved significantly across two distinct eras of British Rail history. [1]
Because it was designed strictly as a high-speed business commuter service, it explicitly bypassed major traditional railway hubs like Crewe to achieve record-breaking express times along the West Coast Main Line (WCML). [1, 2]
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The train maintained a highly restrictive, ultra-fast stopping profile to maximize speed for business executives: [1]
  • [Liverpool Lime Street] (Northern Terminus): The starting point for the morning up-service and final destination for the evening down-service. [1]
  • [Runcorn]: The only stop on the Merseyside extension. It served as a strategic park-and-ride hub for business commuters across Cheshire and the wider Liverpool outer suburbs. [1]
  • [Watford Junction]: A crucial stop positioned just north of London. This allowed business executives heading to outer London corporate offices, the M25 corridor, or connecting commuter lines to alight without having to travel all the way into central London. [1]
  • [London Euston] (Southern Terminus): The final destination in the heart of the capital. [1]
Note: The train made headlines in railway history by running entirely non-stop through Crewe—the busiest junction on the WCML—which was completely contrary to standard British Rail practice at the time. [1, 2]
The legacy of the service spans three specific decades:

1966 — Electrification and Launch

Following the full electrification of the southern section of the [West Coast Main Line], the train was officially introduced on 18 April 1966 under the name "The Liverpool Pullman". [1]
  • The Record: Thanks to an incredibly light weight of only 8 coaches and the brute acceleration of the new Class 86 locomotives, the train completed the end-to-end London-to-Liverpool journey in a record-breaking 2 hours 35 minutes. [1]
  • The Speed Banner: By 1968, its schedule required it to rocket the 163 miles between [Watford Junction] and [Runcorn] in just 119 minutes. This yielded a start-to-stop average speed of 82.3 mph (132.4 km/h), making it the fastest regularly scheduled train timing in the United Kingdom at that time. [1]

1970s — The First Withdrawal

Unlike its highly successful sister train, the Manchester Pullman, the Liverpool Pullman struggled to maintain consistent passenger numbers during the economic downturn of the 1970s. As luxury Pullman travel fell briefly out of fashion, British Rail stripped the train of its name and downgraded it to a standard, unnamed express service. [1, 3]

May 1985 — The Relaunch & Peak Executive Era

On 13 May 1985, British Rail's ambitious InterCity sector revived the route, officially christening it "The Merseyside Pullman" as part of a sweeping premium-brand overhaul. [3, 4]
  • The train was re-equipped with modern, air-conditioned Mark 3 rolling stock painted in the new dark grey and red InterCity Executive livery.
  • This era marked the introduction of the complimentary at-seat grooming packages and luxury menus that featured your aftershave sachet. [3]

1997 — Privatisation and End of the Line

The service ran successfully into the late 1990s. However, when the West Coast Main Line InterCity franchises were privatised and taken over by Virgin Trains in 1997, the unique Pullman executive branding and named commuter trains were permanently dropped in favour of a standardized, high-frequency timetable. [3, 5]
Would you like to know more about the exact morning and evening departure times from the 1980s timetable, or explore how its sister train—the Manchester Pullman—differed in its operation?


While The Merseyside Pullman struggled with passenger numbers over its lifetime, its sister train, the [Manchester Pullman], was the undisputed crown jewel of British Rail's executive fleet.
An interactive map widget highlighting the Manchester Pullman route network, grouped into colorized categories:
  • Manchester Pullman Network (Blue):
    • Euston
    • Wilmslow
    • Stockport
    • Manchester Piccadilly
The Manchester Pullman operated on an entirely different scale and philosophy than the Liverpool service:
  • A Dedicated All-Pullman Train: Unlike the Merseyside Pullman, which was a "mixed" train carrying both standard and first-class passengers in the 1980s, the Manchester Pullman was strictly First Class only for most of its life. Every single coach on the train was a premium Pullman vehicle, creating an exclusive, high-density corporate environment.
  • Massive Financial Success: The Manchester line was an absolute cash cow. The corporate demand between London and Manchester was so immense that while the Liverpool train was withdrawn in the 1970s and later revived, the Manchester Pullman ran continuously from April 18, 1966, all the way until British Rail privatisation in 1997.
  • The "Blue Pullman" Rolling Stock Era: When launched in 1966, the Manchester service utilized the legendary, ultra-luxurious Midi-Diesel "Blue Pullman" multiple units. These striking, custom-built trains featured integral air conditioning, smooth bogies, and an iconic nanking blue livery. The Liverpool route never received these specialized trains and was hauled by standard electric locomotives from day one.
  • Multiple Daily Runs: The Merseyside Pullman only ran one round-trip per day (down to London in the morning, back to Liverpool in the evening). The Manchester Pullman was so heavily booked that British Rail frequently had to run multiple daily services—including mid-day variants—to satisfy corporate demand.
Because it targeted a different business hub, the Manchester Pullman utilized a distinct branch of the [West Coast Main Line], making the following regular stops:
  • [London Euston] (Southern Terminus)
  • [Watford Junction] (Set-down / Pick-up for the outer London business belt)
  • [Wilmslow] (Strategic stop serving the affluent Cheshire "Stockbroker Belt")
  • [Stockport] (Serving the heavy industrial and commercial outer suburbs of Greater Manchester)
  • [Manchester Piccadilly] (Northern Terminus)
Would you like to know more about the famous "Blue Pullman" diesel trains used on the Manchester route, or should we look into the exact schedules and departure times of these executive expresses?










i found this old can of Mansfield Bitter in my shed, it not been open, but not much in the can, lol would be a little off I think ? what left

That is an amazing find! You are completely right to trust your instincts here—that beer is absolutely "off" and definitely not safe to drink.
What you are holding is a brilliant piece of British brewing history. Based on the "Poured by / Canned for Mansfield Brewery" text and the classic "The Perfect Head / The Perfect Body" design, this can likely dates back to the late 1980s or 1990s. The Mansfield Brewery closed its doors in Mansfield around 2001–2002 after being taken over, and the brand itself was officially retired. This means your can has been sitting somewhere for at least 25 to 35 years! [1, 2, 3, 4]

Why is the can mostly empty?

It is very common for old, unopened cans to feel light or nearly empty. This happens due to a process called evaporation through pinholing. Over decades:
  • The slightly acidic beer slowly eats away at the thin microscopic protective lining inside the aluminum can.
  • Tiny, invisible "pinholes" form in the metal or around the seams.
  • The liquid slowly evaporates into the air over 20+ years, leaving behind a heavily concentrated, sticky sludge or a completely dried-out residue at the bottom.

What is left inside?

What little liquid remains is definitely not beer anymore. It will be a flat, highly oxidized, stale, and incredibly sour or metallic sludge. Because the seal has technically been compromised by micro-pinholes, bacteria or wild yeasts could have made their way inside over the decades.
Instead of opening it, keep it exactly as it is! Unopened vintage beer cans are highly collectible items for breweriana enthusiasts who love regional UK brewing history. It makes for a fantastic shelf piece or shed trophy. [5]
If you want, I can help you dig into more history. Would you like to know more about the Mansfield Brewery's famous TV ad campaigns, or are you curious about how much vintage beer cans like this typically sell for to collectors?
Mansfield Brewery ran some of the most memorable, witty, and culturally significant advertising campaigns on British television and billboards throughout the 1980s and 1990s. [1, 2]
Their marketing strategy famously transitioned from cheeky global comparisons to sharp comedy, leaving behind catchphrases that older generations in the UK still remember today.

1. The Iconic "Not Much Matches Mansfield" Era (1980s)

The overarching slogan "Not much matches Mansfield" became a massive part of regional culture. The brewery used clever print ads, billboards, and television spots that humorously juxtaposed everyday life in Nottinghamshire against the grandest figures of the Cold War era. [1, 2, 3]
  • The Ronald Reagan Campaign: In the mid-1980s, billboards and adverts featured a large photo of then-US President Ronald Reagan with the brilliant tagline: "He might be president of the most powerful nation on earth... but he's never had a pint of Mansfield." [1]
  • The Mikhail Gorbachev Sequel: In 1989, they gave the Soviet leader a similar treatment, printing his photo with the line: "He might be the life and soul of the Party... But he's never had a pint of Mansfield." [1, 2]
  • The Three Wishes Genie Ad: In a classic 1986 TV commercial broadcast on Yorkshire Television (YTV), a man rubs a bottle to summon a genie who offers him anything his heart desires. For his first wish, the man asks for a pint of Mansfield Bitter. For his second wish, he asks for another pint of Mansfield Bitter. When the exasperated genie asks if his third wish will be the same, the man finally asks for a tropical island in the Bahamas and a million pounds—reminding the viewer that "not much matches Mansfield". [4]

2. The Jeremy Clarkson Ads (1990s)

Before he became a global superstar on Top Gear, a young Jeremy Clarkson was hired to front the TV advertising campaigns for Mansfield Bitter. [5, 6]
  • These commercials used your exact can design's slogan: "The perfect head on the perfect body."
  • In one famous ad, Clarkson stands in a field investigating crop circles, mocking conspiracy theories before pointing out that the real marvel is the high-quality East Anglian barley used to brew Mansfield Bitter. He finishes the ad with his trademark dry delivery: "Funny looking people, these East Anglians..." [6]

3. The "Man's World" Campaign (2000)

Right before the brewery closed its historic site, they attempted to reinvent the brand for a younger generation of drinkers with a £2 million campaign under the tagline "Man's World, Man's Pint, Mansfield". These ads leaned heavily into the late-90s/early-2000s "lad culture," revolving around parodies of satellite TV stations, sports, and humor. While it initially succeeded in boosting sales by 2%, it wasn't quite enough to save the independent brewery from being swallowed up by larger conglomerates. [7]
If you want to dive deeper into its history, let me know:
  • Would you like to know what happened to the brewery's historic site in Mansfield after it closed?
  • Are you curious about other old midlands/northern beers from that exact same era?
Let me know what you'd like to explore next!



While your Mansfield Bitter can is a fantastic, nostalgic piece of British brewing history, from a strictly financial standpoint, it isn't worth a small fortune.
For a mass-produced aluminum stay-tab can from the late 1980s or 1990s, you can typically expect it to sell for anywhere between £2 to £8 to a collector. [1, 2, 3]
A breakdown of how value is determined for vintage breweriana items like this reveals several key factors:

1. The Era of Production (1980s–1990s)

  • The Rule: The golden rule of beer can collecting is that age and design dictate rarity. The highly valuable cans that sell for hundreds or thousands of pounds are usually "cone-top" or "flat-top" steel cans from the 1930s to the 1960s. [4, 5]
  • Your Can: Your can has a modern stay-tab top (where the pull-tab stays attached to the can). By the late 80s and 90s, manufacturing was massive, and millions of these exact cans were produced and distributed across the Midlands and the North. Because they are relatively modern and common, the collector supply is high. [1, 2, 6]

2. Condition is Everything

  • In the world of breweriana, collectors look closely at Beer Can Appraisals and Grading. Grade 1+ means a pristine, mint-condition can.
  • Your can has a fair amount of dust, some surface grime, and potentially minor aluminum degradation or micro-pitting from being stored in a shed. Cleaning it very gently with warm, soapy water (without scrubbing off the paint) would help its display appeal, but the minor weathering keeps it in a modest price bracket. [4, 6, 7]

3. The "Unopened" vs. "Evaporated" Factor

  • Normally, a fully sealed, full vintage can can sometimes fetch a tiny bit more from specific novelty buyers.
  • However, because yours has suffered from "pinhole evaporation" and is mostly empty, it is effectively valued as an empty can. In fact, most serious collectors actually prefer empty cans because full, decades-old cans run the risk of eventually rupturing or leaking sludge onto their display shelves! [4, 6]

The Verdict?

It is likely worth more to you as a cool, retro "shed trophy" and a talking piece than it is on the open market.
If you did want to try selling it, your best bet would be listing it on eBay UK under "Vintage Collectable Beer Cans", or sharing it in regional enthusiast spaces like a Mansfield Brewery Collectibles Group where local Nottinghamshire or Derbyshire historians look for nostalgia pieces. [8, 9]
If you want to clear out or value other things from your shed find, let me know:
  • Did you find any other brewery items with it (like old pub towels, glasses, or metal trays)?
  • Are there any other brands of old cans or bottles hiding in there?
I can help you identify or check the history of whatever else you turn up!