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Monday, 2 March 2026

Notes for Monday 21:30 to 07:30 Thorpe Station 🚉🚉🚉🚉🚉🚉🚉+🚉🚉🚉 three hours overtime

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745008 1P67 20:00 Norwich Thoirpe to London Liverpool Street cancellled

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Notes to myself

 

The biggest cruise ship today is Royal Caribbean’s Legend of the Seas, entering service in 2026, and comparing it to White Star Line’s unbuilt Oceanic (III) shows just how far ship design has evolved.


🚢 Largest cruise ship today: Legend of the Seas (2026)

Modern cruise ships are measured by gross tonnage (GT), which reflects internal volume.
According to multiple 2026 cruise‑industry rankings, Legend of the Seas is the world’s largest cruise ship. Daily Express Top10Sense

Key stats (2026)

  • Type: Mega cruise ship (Royal Caribbean)
  • Gross tonnage: Over 250,000 GT (industry-leading class)
  • Passengers: Around 7,000+
  • Crew: ~2,500
  • Features: 40+ bars and restaurants, waterpark, surf simulator, multi‑neighbourhood layout Daily Express

This makes her more than five times the internal volume of Titanic and the largest cruise ship ever built as of 2026.


⚓ White Star Line’s unbuilt giant: Oceanic (III) (planned 1928–1930)

Oceanic (III) was designed to be the largest ship in the world of her era, but construction stopped after the 1929 crash.
Her specifications are well documented in historical sources. Wikipedia

Planned stats (never completed)

  • Type: Ocean liner (not a cruise ship)
  • Gross tonnage: 70,000–85,000 GRT (estimated)
  • Length: 1,050 ft (320 m)
  • Speed: 32.5 knots—faster than any liner of the time
  • Passengers: 3,451
  • Crew: 1,120

She would have been the first ship over 1,000 ft long and the most advanced diesel‑electric liner ever attempted.


📏 Size comparison: Legend of the Seas vs Oceanic (III)

FeatureLegend of the Seas (2026)Oceanic (III) (planned 1928)
TypeCruise shipOcean liner
Gross tonnage~250,000 GT70,000–85,000 GRT
Length~1,200 ft (class estimate)1,050 ft
Passenger capacity7,000+3,451
Crew~2,5001,120
StatusIn service 2026Cancelled 1930

What this means

  • Modern cruise ships are vastly larger in volumeLegend of the Seas is roughly 3× the size of the planned Oceanic (III).
  • Oceanic (III), however, was designed for speed and transatlantic service, not resort‑style amenities.
  • In her own era, Oceanic (III) would have been a record‑breaking superliner, unmatched until the late 20th century.

🌍 Why the comparison is fascinating

White Star’s Oceanic (III) shows how ambitious ocean‑liner design was before the Great Depression.
Modern cruise ships like Legend of the Seas show how the industry shifted from speed and prestige to floating cities built for leisure.


If you want, I can also compare Oceanic (III) to Titanic, Queen Mary, or today’s Icon of the Seas to show how ship design evolved across a full century.

Fish and chips

 

Fish and chips emerged from two separate food traditions—Sephardic Jewish fried fish and the rise of chipped potatoes in industrial Britain—before becoming a unified national dish in the mid‑19th century. The pairing grew rapidly thanks to cheap ingredients, urbanisation, and the expansion of rail transport, eventually becoming one of the most recognisable symbols of British working‑class life. Historic UK The Chip Shed


🐟 Fried fish arrives in Britain

Fried fish was introduced to Britain by Jewish immigrants from Spain and Portugal in the 17th century. Their pescado frito—fish coated in flour and fried in oil—adapted well to British tastes and climate. By the early Victorian era, fried‑fish sellers were common in London, with Charles Dickens referencing them in Oliver Twist (1837–39). The Chip Shed Ironbridge Valley of Invention

Key points:

  • Sephardic Jewish communities brought the frying technique.
  • Fried‑fish shops were established by the early 1800s.
  • Literary references confirm its presence in Victorian street food culture.

🍟 The rise of the chip

Potatoes reached Britain in the 17th century, though fried potatoes likely originated in France or Belgium. By the mid‑19th century, chips had become a cheap, filling staple in industrial towns, especially in Lancashire. Dickens again provides early evidence, mentioning “chips” in A Tale of Two Cities (1859). Historic UK Ironbridge Valley of Invention


🍽️ When fish met chips

The exact moment the two foods were first sold together is unknown, but both London and Lancashire claim the honour. What is clear is that by the 1860s, fish‑and‑chip shops were appearing in multiple cities. They thrived because:

  • Ingredients were inexpensive and widely available.
  • Industrial workers needed quick, hearty meals.
  • Railways enabled fast transport of fresh fish inland. Historic UK

By the late 19th century, the dish was firmly established as a British staple.


🏭 A working‑class icon

Fish and chips became deeply tied to working‑class identity. Shops multiplied rapidly, often operating as small family businesses. The meal was nutritious, affordable, and portable—traditionally wrapped in newspaper and eaten outdoors. During both World Wars, it was one of the few foods never rationed, reinforcing its cultural importance. The Chip Shed


🇬🇧 A national symbol

By the 20th century, fish and chips were recognised worldwide as quintessentially British. The dish spread across the Empire and Commonwealth, influencing local variations from Hong Kong to the Caribbean. Today, it remains a nostalgic comfort food, celebrated for its simplicity and history—even as tastes and frying techniques evolve. Wikipedia


If you’d like, I can trace how fish‑and‑chip shops developed in specific regions—London, Lancashire, or even Norwich—to map how the dish embedded itself locally.


Fish and chips in Norwich has a surprisingly rich, very local story: a mix of long‑standing chippies, post‑war family businesses, and a few places that became minor legends. One of the most colourful threads is the tale of Valori’s Fish & Chips, once a small Norwich institution with multiple branches and a brush with pop‑culture history. Norwich Evening News


🐟 How fish and chips took root in Norwich

Norwich followed the same broad pattern as the rest of industrial Britain: by the late 19th and early 20th centuries, fish‑and‑chip shops became a staple of working‑class neighbourhoods. The city’s dense terraces, factory workforce, and evening economy created ideal conditions for chippies to thrive. While national histories trace the dish to Sephardic Jewish fried fish and northern industrial chips, Norwich’s adoption was shaped by:

  • Rail links to the coast, making fresh fish from Great Yarmouth and Lowestoft easy to transport.
  • A strong tradition of small, family‑run food shops, especially in areas like Magdalen Street, Dereham Road, and the Lanes.
  • Post‑war immigration and entrepreneurship, which helped diversify ownership and styles of frying.

🍟 Valori’s: Norwich’s most storied chippy

Among Norwich’s many chippies, Valori’s stands out as the one with genuine local folklore. It once operated several branches, including Rose Lane, Grapes Hill, and Nelson Street. Its fame peaked in the 1960s when The Beatles—after performing at the Grosvenor Rooms in 1963—tucked into cod and chips from the Rose Lane shop. Norwich Evening News

Valori’s became a go‑to for late‑night crowds, theatre‑goers, and families, remembered for:

  • Distinctively crisp batter
  • Generous portions
  • A warm, bustling, slightly chaotic atmosphere typical of mid‑century chippies

Though the chain eventually closed, it remains one of Norwich’s most fondly recalled food institutions.


🏙️ The wider Norwich chippy landscape

Beyond Valori’s, Norwich has long supported a mix of traditional and modern fish‑and‑chip shops. While the search results don’t list specific historic venues beyond Valori’s, the city’s pattern mirrors other regional centres:

  • Early 20th century: small, coal‑fired fryers in residential streets
  • Mid‑century: expansion into multiple‑branch family businesses
  • Late 20th century: competition from takeaways and fast‑food chains
  • 21st century: revival of high‑quality, sustainably sourced fish and artisanal frying

This evolution reflects the national story of fish and chips as a dish that adapts to changing tastes while remaining rooted in local identity. Wikipedia Historic UK


🎣 Norwich in the national story

Norwich’s fish‑and‑chip culture sits within the broader history of the dish: a fusion of Sephardic Jewish fried fish and northern English chips that became a national staple by the 1860s. The Chip Shed streetfoodhub.co.uk
What makes Norwich distinctive is how its chippies became woven into the city’s social life—post‑gig meals, late‑night queues, and family rituals—anchored by memorable shops like Valori’s.


If you want, I can map out a timeline of Norwich chippies, trace specific neighbourhood histories, or help identify which historic shops still survive today.

A handful of Norwich fish‑and‑chip shops have enough longevity, continuity, or cultural presence to count as historic survivors—places that either date back decades or have become embedded in the city’s collective memory. While Norwich lost some of its most famous mid‑century names (like Valori’s), several long‑standing shops still operate today and carry forward that older tradition.


🐟 Long‑established Norwich chippies that still operate

Grosvenor Fish Bar (The Lanes)

Often described as one of Norwich’s best and most iconic chippies, Grosvenor Fish Bar has been trading for decades and remains a city institution. It consistently appears at the top of local rankings and review lists, including being named the number‑one fish‑and‑chip venue in Norwich by Eastern Daily Press’s roundup of top shops. Eastern Daily Press
Its longevity, central location, and distinctive underground seating make it the closest thing Norwich has to a “heritage” chippy still in full operation.

The Fish & Chip Shop, Magdalen Street

Magdalen Street has always been one of Norwich’s most historically layered commercial streets, and this shop continues that tradition. It’s highlighted as a standout for its classic frying style, thick‑cut chips, and sustainably sourced fish. staynorwichapartments.com
While not as old as Grosvenor, it represents the survival of the traditional neighbourhood chippy in an area once full of them.

The Golden Fryer, Castle Meadow

Castle Meadow has long been a corridor of small, independent food shops, and The Golden Fryer is noted as one of the city’s reliable, traditional fryers. It appears in local guides as a recommended spot for classic fish and chips. staynorwichapartments.com
Its endurance in a high‑footfall area dominated by chains makes it a quiet survivor of the older Norwich takeaway landscape.


🍟 Shops with strong continuity but not strictly “historic”

These aren’t Victorian or early‑20th‑century survivors, but they have become long‑standing fixtures in the modern era:

  • New Sole Plaice — Highly rated and well‑established, though more contemporary in origin. Tripadvisor
  • Lucy’s Chips (Market Stalls) — A well‑known presence on Norwich Market, included in top‑shop lists. Eastern Daily Press
  • SugarBeat Eating House — Not a traditional chippy, but frequently recognised for its fish‑and‑chips offering. Tripadvisor

These places contribute to continuity but don’t have the same deep historical roots as Grosvenor or the Magdalen Street shop.


🏛️ What counts as “historic” in Norwich’s chippy landscape?

Norwich doesn’t have many surviving pre‑war or mid‑century chippies; many of the older names (Valori’s, for example) have closed. What survives today tends to fall into two categories:

  • Long‑running central institutions (e.g., Grosvenor Fish Bar)
  • Traditional neighbourhood fryers that have endured despite urban change (e.g., Magdalen Street, Castle Meadow)

These shops preserve the feel and continuity of Norwich’s fish‑and‑chip heritage even if their exact founding dates aren’t Victorian.


If you’d like, I can map these onto a timeline of Norwich chippy history, or trace lost shops like Valori’s to show how the city’s fish‑and‑chip culture evolved.



Valori’s sits at the centre of Norwich’s lost fish‑and‑chip landscape, and tracing its rise and disappearance gives you a clear view of how the city’s chippy culture evolved from mid‑century bustle to today’s smaller, more curated scene. The surviving evidence paints a picture of a family business that once helped define Norwich’s everyday food life before fading as tastes, nightlife patterns, and city‑centre economics shifted.


🐟 Valori’s: the defining lost Norwich chippy

Valori’s was once one of Norwich’s best‑known fish‑and‑chip chains, with branches on Rose Lane, Grapes Hill, and Nelson Street. It served thousands over the decades and became part of the city’s social fabric. Its most famous moment came in 1963, when The Beatles ate cod and chips from the Rose Lane shop after performing at the Grosvenor Rooms. Norwich Evening News

Photographs of the Grapes Hill branch survive in local archives and community groups, showing the shop as a familiar landmark in the 1950s–70s streetscape. Facebook

Valori’s eventually closed all its branches, but its memory persists because it represented a particular era of Norwich life: late‑night queues, post‑dance‑hall suppers, and the city’s shift from small family fryers to a more mixed food economy.


🏙️ What Valori’s tells us about Norwich’s chippy evolution

Valori’s rise and fall mirrors broader changes in Norwich:

  • Post‑war expansion: As the city grew and nightlife flourished, central chippies thrived. Valori’s multiple branches reflect this boom.
  • Cultural embeddedness: Its Beatles connection shows how chippies were woven into the city’s entertainment circuit.
  • Urban redevelopment: Areas like Rose Lane and Grapes Hill saw major changes from the 1970s onward, reducing the number of independent fryers.
  • Shift in food culture: The late 20th century brought fast‑food chains, new cuisines, and different expectations of quality and branding, making it harder for older family shops to survive.

By the time Norwich entered the 2000s, many of the mid‑century chippies had disappeared, leaving only a handful of long‑established survivors.


🧭 Other lost or transformed Norwich chippies

While Valori’s is the best‑documented, it was part of a wider pattern of closures. Local memory groups and newspaper retrospectives regularly list long‑gone restaurants and takeaways that once shaped the city’s food landscape. Eastern Daily Press
Although not all were fish‑and‑chip shops, the trend shows how many small, independent venues vanished as the city modernised.


🐟 How this shaped today’s scene

The disappearance of shops like Valori’s left space for two types of successors:

  • Heritage survivors such as Grosvenor Fish Bar, which carry forward the traditional model with modern polish.
  • New‑wave chippies that emphasise sustainability, branding, and sit‑in dining.

The result is a landscape where the memory of mid‑century chippies is almost as important as the food itself, shaping how Norwich residents talk about their city’s past.


If you’d like, I can map out a timeline of Valori’s locations, reconstruct their opening/closing sequence, or trace how Rose Lane and Grapes Hill changed around them.



Valori’s history can be pieced together into a clear, evidence‑based timeline using what survives in local reporting and business records. The picture that emerges is of a mid‑century family chain with three confirmed Norwich branches—Rose Lane, Grapes Hill, and Nelson Street—operating for decades before disappearing from the city’s food landscape.


🕰️ Timeline of Valori’s in Norwich

1) Early–Mid 20th Century: Establishment of the Valori family businesses

Exact founding dates aren’t recorded in surviving public sources, but by the mid‑century period the Valori name was firmly associated with fish‑and‑chip shops in Norwich. Two strands appear in later records:

These entries show the Valori name operating multiple premises, consistent with the oral history that it was a small local chain.

2) 1950s–1960s: Expansion and cultural prominence

By this period, Valori’s had multiple branches, including:

  • Rose Lane
  • Grapes Hill
  • Nelson Street

A 2025 Norwich Evening News retrospective confirms that Valori’s “once boasted multiple Norwich branches including Grape’s Hill and Nelson Street.” Norwich Evening News

The Rose Lane shop became the most famous. On 30 May 1963, after performing at the Grosvenor Rooms, The Beatles ate cod and chips from Valori’s Rose Lane—a detail repeatedly cited in local memory and confirmed in the same article. Norwich Evening News

This moment cemented Valori’s as part of Norwich’s pop‑culture folklore.

3) 1970s–1990s: Gradual contraction

As Norwich’s city centre redeveloped—particularly around Rose Lane and Grapes Hill—many small, family‑run food shops closed or relocated. Although no single source gives exact closure dates, the absence of Valori’s from later directories and the survival only of business‑registry remnants (e.g., Reg Valori and Arthur Valori listings) suggests a slow winding‑down rather than a single collapse.

By the late 20th century, the chain had effectively disappeared from the high street.

4) 2000s–2020s: Legacy and memory

Valori’s no longer operates as a public‑facing fish‑and‑chip shop, but the name persists in:

  • Business‑registry remnants (e.g., Reg Valori at Nelson Street). norwich.cylex-uk.co.uk
  • Local nostalgia groups and newspaper retrospectives
  • The Beatles anecdote, which is now the most widely circulated piece of Valori’s history

The Norwich Evening News article from 2025 explicitly frames Valori’s as a historic, now‑lost chippy. Norwich Evening News


📍 Summary of Confirmed Valori’s Locations

LocationStatusEvidence
Rose LaneClosedBeatles anecdote + branch list Norwich Evening News
Grapes HillClosedListed as former branch Norwich Evening News
Nelson Street (Reg Valori)Business listing remains, shop closedCylex listing norwich.cylex-uk.co.uk
28 Dereham Road (Arthur Valori & Co)Business listing remains, shop closedHours Now listing The Hours Now

These listings show the Valori name persisted administratively even after the chippies themselves disappeared.


🧭 How this timeline fits into Norwich’s wider chippy history

Valori’s rise and decline mirrors the broader pattern of Norwich’s mid‑century food culture:

  • Post‑war boom → multiple branches, high footfall, nightlife trade
  • 1960s cultural moment → Beatles visit
  • 1970s–1990s redevelopment → erosion of small independent fryers
  • 2000s onward → consolidation around a few survivors (e.g., Grosvenor Fish Bar)

Valori’s is remembered not because it was the oldest, but because it was everywhere, woven into daily life, and tied to a moment of national pop‑culture history.


If you’d like, I can reconstruct a map of where each Valori’s branch sat in the mid‑century street layout, or trace how Rose Lane and Grapes Hill changed around them, which often explains why these shops disappeared.


A mid‑century map of Valori’s sits quite neatly on top of Norwich’s old street pattern: three confirmed branches forming a loose triangle around the city centre. Each one occupied a very specific kind of urban setting — Rose Lane in the entertainment district, Grapes Hill on a major gateway slope, and Nelson Street in a dense residential grid. Together they show how the chain embedded itself in everyday movement through the city.


🗺️ Rose Lane — the nightlife and transport hub

Rose Lane’s Valori’s branch stood in the heart of Norwich’s mid‑century entertainment zone. The Norwich Evening News confirms this was the shop where The Beatles bought cod and chips in 1963 after their Grosvenor Rooms performance Norwich Evening News.
In the 1950s–70s, Rose Lane was a corridor of cinemas, dance halls, and late‑night cafés. The chippy would have sat close to:

  • The Grosvenor Rooms (St Andrews Hall Plain side)
  • The ABC/Regal cinema cluster
  • The bus routes feeding Thorpe Station and Prince of Wales Road

This made it the most visible and culturally central Valori’s location.


🗺️ Grapes Hill — the gateway slope into the city

Grapes Hill’s branch is also confirmed as one of Valori’s key sites Norwich Evening News.
Grapes Hill has always been a transitional space: a steep approach into the city centre from Earlham Road and Dereham Road. In the mid‑century period, it was lined with small shops and cafés serving:

  • Workers walking down into the city
  • Evening crowds heading toward St Benedict’s Street
  • Traffic flowing between the inner suburbs and the centre

Photographs in local archives show a row of modest shopfronts here in the 1950s–70s, and Valori’s would have been part of that streetscape.


🗺️ Nelson Street — the neighbourhood chippy

The Nelson Street address appears in business listings as Reg Valori, 170 Nelson Street norwich.cylex-uk.co.uk.
This branch sat in a dense residential area west of the city centre, close to:

  • Heigham Street
  • Old Palace Road
  • The Dereham Road corridor

This was a classic neighbourhood chippy: serving families, workers, and schoolchildren rather than nightlife. Its presence shows Valori’s wasn’t just a city‑centre brand — it had roots in local communities too.


🧭 How these three locations fit together

Placed on a mid‑century map, the branches form a triangle around the city:

  • Rose Lane — entertainment, transport, and late‑night trade
  • Grapes Hill — gateway footfall and commuter flow
  • Nelson Street — residential everyday trade

This pattern is typical of successful mid‑century chippy chains: one flagship in the centre, one on a major approach road, and one embedded in a neighbourhood.


🏙️ What the map reveals about Norwich’s food geography

The distribution shows how Norwich’s fish‑and‑chip culture once mirrored the city’s movement patterns:

  • People coming into the centre (Grapes Hill)
  • People circulating within the centre (Rose Lane)
  • People living just outside it (Nelson Street)

It also explains why Valori’s became so widely remembered: it touched multiple parts of daily life — commuting, nightlife, and home.


If you want to go deeper, I can reconstruct how each street looked in the 1950s–70s and show how redevelopment erased or reshaped the spaces Valori’s once occupied.


Norwich has reshaped all three Valori’s locations through waves of redevelopment, traffic re‑engineering, and land‑use change. Each site went through a different kind of transformation, but together they show why mid‑century chippies like Valori’s disappeared: the physical fabric around them was rebuilt, re‑purposed, or re‑prioritised.


🏙️ Rose Lane — from nightlife strip to redevelopment corridor

Rose Lane has seen the most dramatic change. Mid‑century Rose Lane was a dense strip of small shops, cafés, and late‑night venues feeding the cinema and dance‑hall crowds. Today, the area has been reshaped by:

  • Major redevelopment schemes, including a 2016 proposal to replace older buildings with offices and 26 apartments at 26–36 Rose Lane. cmis.norwich.gov.uk
  • Large-scale site reallocations, with the Rose Lane/Mountergate area repeatedly earmarked for new uses in the Local Plan, including workspace conversions, new flats, and the replacement Rose Lane multi‑storey car park. GNLP
  • Transport and public‑realm redesign, with 2018 plans to reduce through‑traffic, improve air quality, and create more pedestrian‑friendly space around Prince of Wales Road/Rose Lane. Norfolk County Council

These changes replaced the fine‑grained shopfronts that once supported late‑night food businesses. The physical setting that made Valori’s Rose Lane branch viable simply no longer exists.


🛣️ Grapes Hill — gateway modernisation and streetscape loss

Grapes Hill’s mid‑century streetscape was a slope lined with small independent shops. Over time, the area has been reshaped by:

  • Road widening and traffic‑flow redesign
  • Removal of older shopfront terraces
  • Landscaping and pedestrian improvements at the top and bottom of the hill

Although not documented in the same planning detail as Rose Lane, the pattern is clear: Grapes Hill shifted from a mixed commercial slope to a traffic corridor with fewer small retail units. The kind of modest, walk‑up chippy that once sat here became structurally unsupported by the new urban form.


🏘️ Nelson Street — residential renewal and clearance

Nelson Street’s Valori’s branch sat in a dense residential grid west of the centre. This area experienced:

  • Housing clearance and renewal, especially in the mid‑20th century, as documented in Norwich’s redevelopment plans (e.g., the City Engineer’s 1930s–60s clearance volumes). The National Archives
  • Gradual replacement of mixed-use corner shops with purely residential buildings
  • Reduced footfall as local retail patterns consolidated onto Dereham Road and Heigham Street

The result was a quieter, more residential street where a neighbourhood chippy had less economic room to survive.


🔍 What these changes reveal about Norwich’s evolution

Across all three sites, the same forces recur:

  • Redevelopment replaced small commercial units with larger, single‑use buildings (Rose Lane).
  • Traffic engineering prioritised movement over street‑level retail (Grapes Hill).
  • Housing renewal removed the mixed-use corner‑shop ecology (Nelson Street).

Valori’s didn’t just close because of competition or changing tastes — the urban fabric that supported it was dismantled or reconfigured. The chain’s disappearance is a direct reflection of Norwich’s shift from a mid‑century, walkable, mixed‑use centre to a more zoned, redeveloped, and traffic‑managed city.


Would you like a reconstruction of what each street looked like in the 1950s–70s so you can see exactly what was lost?




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2122

2122

AS

Acle [ACL]

1

2132½

2133½

2132½

2133

Lingwood [LGD]

1

2137½

2138

2137¼

2138

Brundall [BDA]

1

2141½

2142½

2141½

2142¼

ASUL

Brundall Gardens [BGA]

1

2144½

2145

2144¼

2145¼

Whitlingham Jn [XWH]

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2149

pass

2148½

Wensum Junction

pass

2151½

pass

2150¼

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ULB

Thorpe Junction

pass

2152½

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2151

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Norwich [NRW]

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2154

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Platform 4A arrived at 21:53

755401 platform 5B next

2S61 2042 Sheringham to Norwich

Departing today

Greater Anglia


UID P49584, identity 2S61

TSC 21897002

SuO - 14/12/2025 to 10/05/2026

Ordinary Passenger

Great Britain (Network Rail, TPS)

755334

Standard class only seating

TRUST ID 482S61MZ01

Activated 01/03/2026 19:42

Platform 5B 21:30 arrived , may be clean latter?

755336 platform 5 - 2J95 21:46 Lowestoft Central to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (22:30) - 2P30 22:36 Norwich Thorpe to Great Yarmouth Vauxhall platform 2 23:08 -


745003 platform 2 - 1P64 20:30 London Liverpool Street to Norwich Thorpe arrived at 22:15 (22:17) for 1Y75 23:05 Norwich Thorpe to Ipswich 23:46 platform 4 -

755336 platform 5 - 2J95 21:46 Lowestoft Central to Norwich Thorpe arrived at 22:28 (22:30) - 2P30 22:36 Norwich Thorpe to Great Yarmouth Vauxhall platform 2 23:08 -

755338 platform 6

755401 platform 5B cleaning 🧹🧼 inside and cabs

755325 platform 4B arrived at 22:410

755405 platform 4A arrived at 22:43

755332 platform 4A+ arrived at 22:49

170204 & 170418 platform 3

Cleaning all 3 on platform 4 badly, 755325 755405 755332

755412 & 755411 in Low Level, notice at 23:10,

745001 platform 1 - 1P68 21:30 London Liverpool Street to Norwich Thorpe arrived at 23:16  (23:17) -

745001 platform 1 left at 23:29

745001 Royal Dock arrived at 23:40

745009 platform 4 - 1P70 22:30 London Liverpool Street to Norwich Thorpe arrived at 00:15(00:17) -

745001 Royal Dock stable clean 🫧🪥🔤

745008 platform 4 - 1P72 23:30 London Liverpool Street to Norwich Thorpe arrived at 01:16  (01:18) - CPD Clean

158854 & 158788 platform 3A+

755417 platform 2B dirty


755416 platform 2A dirty


755405 platform 2A+

755328 Middle Road 


755401 platform 5B


 755338 platform 6


755424 platform 5A

755414 platform 5B dirty

755421 & 755410 may be, hard to see, Jubilee Sidings next to walk way

745008 platform 1 left at 01:41

745001 platform 1 arrived at 02:00

755417 platform 2B & 755416 platform 2A some trash , bins and tables

755424 platform 5A litter 🚮 bins and tables done ✅

745007 Royal Dock notice at 02:53


Google Fit app
Shenzhen DOKE Electronic Co Ltd Health app.
Well know for BlackView phones, but sometimes, this app, seem to count too many steps ? 
I done more steps on Sunday, but this counted many more today, Monday, in the five hours in the Morning of Monday ? Silly me. 

1985: Talking Proper - What's in an Accent? | Forty Minutes | BBC Archive

 


Sunday, 1 March 2026

TENERIFE - BEST Bars For Nightlife In Las Americas ?

 


Would You Leave The UK Tomorrow? | Is Life REALLY Better Abroad… Or Is It Just The Weather?


 

Notes for Sunday 21:30 to 04:30 Thorpe Station

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🚉🚉🚉🚉🚉🚉🚉

745007 platform 2 1P56 18:30 London Liverpool Street to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (20:17) for 1P71 21:00 Norwich Thorpe to London Liverpool Street 22:47 platform 14 -

745006 platform 1 - 1P58 19:00 London Liverpool Street  to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (20:44)

745008 platform 1 - 1P60 19:30 London Liverpool Street to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (21:17) for 1P73 22:04 Norwich Thorpe to London Liverpool Street 23:58 platform 13 -

745003 platform 2 - 1P64 20:30 London Liverpool Street to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (22:17) for 1Y75 23:05 Norwich Thorpe to Ipswich 23:46 platform 4 -

745001 platform 2 - 1P68 21:30 London Liverpool Street to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (23:17) -

745009 platform 1 - 1P70 22:30 London Liverpool Street to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (00:17) -

745007 platform 4 - 1P72 23:30 London Liverpool Street to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (01:18) -

+++++++

755408 platform 4 - 2J99 23:35 Lowestoft Central to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (00:13) -

745336 platform 5A - 2C31 23:17 Great Yarmouth Vauxhall to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (23:52) -

755416 platform 4A - 1K94 22:01 Audley End to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (23:42)

755332 platform 5A - 2C29 22:17 Great Yarmouth Vauxhall to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (22:51)

755325 platform 5B - 2S27 21:43 Sheringham to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (22:40) -

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755336 platform 5 - 2J95 21:46 Lowestoft Central to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (22:30) - 2P30 22:36 Norwich Thorpe to Great Yarmouth Vauxhall platform 2 23:08 -

755407 platform 2 -1K88 20:01 Audley End to  Norwich Thorpe arrived at (21:43) - 1K97 22:01 Norwich Thorpe to Cambridge North platform 1 23:15 -

+ Sunday + 21:30 to 04:30 Thorpe Station 🚉🚉🚉🚉🚉🚉🚉

TENERIFE Las Americas To Costa Adeje

 

TENERIFE Las Americas To Costa Adeje

Best Nightclub in Las Americas


Now Kevin is back in Tenerife again, a place I have not been for some time, some new bars and places, again, change, lol 


Tenerife in February.

Tenerife Best for Winter


 



Saturday 21:30 to 04:30 Thorpe Station

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🚉🚉🚉🚉🚉🚉🚉

745101 platform 2 - 9P58 19:00 London Liverpool Street to Norwich Thorpe 20:33 - 5P58 21:09 Norwich Thorpe to Crown Point Depot 21:27

745108 platform 2 - 1P60 19:30 London Liverpool Street to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (21:19) for 1P73 22:02 Norwich Thorpe to London Liverpool Street 23:57 platform 10 -

755329 755420 755408 platform 1 - 1P62 20:00 London Liverpool Street to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (21:49) for 5P62 22:05 Norwich Thorpe to Crown Point Depot 22:15 -

745007 platform 1 - 1P64 20:30 London Liverpool Street to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (22:18) but might not be for 1Y75 23:05 Norwich Thorpe to Ipswich 23:49 platform 4 -

745005 platform 1 - 1P68 21:30 London Liverpool Street to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (23:19) -

745 platform 1 - 1P70 22:30 London Liverpool Street to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (00:19) -

745008 platform 3 - 1P72 23:30 London Liverpool Street to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (01:19) -

+++++++

755410 platform 5 2S35 00:07 Sheringham to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (00:56) -

755334 platform 5A - 2J99 23:30 Lowestoft Central to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (00:24)

755413 platform 5B - 2J99 23:30 Lowestoft Central to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (00:14) -

755421 platform 3A - 1K96 22:10 Stansted Airport / 22:55 Cambridge  to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (00:11) -

755402 platform 3B - 2C45 23:34 Great Yarmouth Vaxuhall to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (00:06)

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755402 platform 4 -2P43 22:17 Great Yarmouth Vaxuhall to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (22:49) - 2P44 23:00 Norwich Thorpe to Great Yarmouth Vaxuhall 23:30 platform 2 -

755410 platform 6 - 1K92 21:01 Audley End to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (22:37) - 2S36 223:05 Norwich Thorpe to Sheringham 00:02 -

755415 platform 2 - 2J95 21:48 Lowestoft Central  to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (22:32) - 745417 for 1K97 22:40 Norwich Thorpe to Cambridge  23:56 platform 6 -

755413 platform 4 - 1J93 20:57 Lowestoft Central to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (21:32) - 2J96 22:41 Norwich Thorpe to Lowestoft Central 23:25 platform 3 -

755417 platform 5B - 2P41 21:17 Great Yarmouth Vauxhall to Norwich Thorpe arrived at (21:49) for 2J94 22:05 Norwich Thorpe to Lowestoft Central 22:49 platform 2 -

+++++++ Saturday +++++++ 21:30 to 04:30 Thorpe Station 🚉🚉🚉🚉🚉🚉🚉

745006 Royal Dock notice at 21:11

745108

745108 platform 2 - 1P60 19:30 London Liverpool Street to Norwich Thorpe arrived at 22:18 (21:19) not for 1P73 22:02 Norwich Thorpe to London Liverpool Street 23:57 platform 10 -

745108 platform 2 may be 22:00 Norwich Thorpe to London Liverpool Street?

755413 platform 4 - 1J93 20:57 Lowestoft Central to Norwich Thorpe arrived at 21:31 (21:32) - 2J96 22:41 Norwich Thorpe to Lowestoft Central 23:25 platform 3 -

755329 755420 755408 platform 1 - 1P62 20:00 London Liverpool Street to Norwich Thorpe arrived at 21:42 (21:49) for 5P62 22:05 Norwich Thorpe to Crown Point Depot 22:15 -

755417 platform 5B - 2P41 21:17 Great Yarmouth Vauxhall to Norwich Thorpe arrived at 21:46 (21:49) for 2J94 22:05 Norwich Thorpe to Lowestoft Central 22:49 platform 2 -

755327 platform 5B - 2P41 21:17 Great Yarmouth Vauxhall to Norwich Thorpe arrived at 21:46 (21:49) for 2J94 22:05 Norwich Thorpe to Lowestoft Central 22:49 platform 2 -

755328 platform 5 arrived at 22:08  cleaning 🧹🧼 very bad night of chaos

755415 platform 2 - 2J95 21:48 Lowestoft Central  to Norwich Thorpe arrived at  22:31 (22:32) - 745417 for 1K97 22:40 Norwich Thorpe to Cambridge  23:56 platform 6 -


745007 platform 1 - 1P64 20:30 London Liverpool Street to Norwich Thorpe arrived at 21:16 (22:18) but might not be for 1Y75 23:05 Norwich Thorpe to Ipswich 23:49 platform 4 -


755327 platform 5 for 22:05 Norwich Thorpe to Lowestoft Central, not 755417

755410 platform 6 - 1K92 21:01 Audley End to Norwich Thorpe arrived at 22:35 (22:37) - 2S36 223:05 Norwich Thorpe to Sheringham 00:02 -

755407 Middle Road arrived at 22:40 no cleaning

755402 platform 4 -2P43 22:17 Great Yarmouth Vaxuhall to Norwich Thorpe arrived at 22:52 (22:49) - 2P44 23:00 Norwich Thorpe to Great Yarmouth Vaxuhall 23:30 platform 2 -

745005 platform 1 - 1P68 21:30 London Liverpool Street to Norwich Thorpe arrived at 23:17 (23:19) -quick clean 🫧🪥 A to F


755407 platform 3B, moved from Middle Road, dirty

755402 platform 6B - 2C45 23:34 Great Yarmouth Vaxuhall to Norwich Thorpe arrived at 00:05 (00:06)

755413 platform 2B - 2J99 23:30 Lowestoft Central to Norwich Thorpe arrived at 00:14 (00:14) -


755421 platform 2B- 1K96 22:10 Stansted Airport / 22:55 Cambridge  to Norwich Thorpe arrived at 00:11 (00:11) -

755334 Middle Road arrived at 00:17

745003 platform 1 - 1P70 22:30 London Liverpool Street to Norwich Thorpe arrived at 00:18 (00:19) -

745006 Royal Dock stable clean 🫧🪥🔤🧹🪥 ABC

745008 platform 3 - 1P72 23:30 London Liverpool Street to Norwich Thorpe arrived at 00:17  (01:19) -

745008 platform 1  stable clean ABC 🔤🧹🧼

755407 platform 3B next

755335 & 855327 platform 5

745003 platform 1 left at 00:42

755407 755332 755328 platform 3 from 3B to 3A +


on Google Fit app, I got 53 Heart Points, and 10,541 steps, from Midnight to 04:30.